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John Bartelt reveals lost link in education

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Professor of education and organizational leadership John Bartelt lectured on technology and the classroom on Nov. 28 in the President’s Dining Room. Bartelt’s presentation was intentionally kept short to allow for group discussion on how professors as well as students felt about the current state and the future of education and technology. / photo by Scott Mirimanian

Brittany Lawrence
Staff Writer

John Bartelt, professor of education and technology, revealed the missing link in education with his lecture, “In Search of the Missing Link Between Technology and Edu­cation, Five Key Learnings,” on Monday in the President’s Dining Room.

There were more than 30 people in attendance.

Of the 30 all but three were faculty members. The remaining three were students.

“My research for this started this summer,” Bartelt said.

He used a PowerPoint presentation to aid his lecture which was only about 15 minutes long, which was short compared to a normal lecture.

Bartelt did this so the remaining time could be used to have an active discussion with the audience members about the topic of education.

Bartelt stated that there are four layers of learning. He then began his lecture with an in-depth explanation of each layer.

According to his research the first layer, oral culture, is the preservation of knowledge.

The second layer, print culture, is information and how it is preserved through writing.

The third layer, mass media, is content and the fourth layer, also known as emerging, is participatory culture in its context.

“We need to focus on trying to use all these together,” Al Clark, associate vice president for academic affairs, said. “Content and information are still important.”

“For these we need to learn one before the other,” David Werner, associate professor of English, said.

“We need all of these as a foundation,” Bartelt said.

Bartelt then went on to compare students to gamers.

“Every gamer and effective student: 1. Enters an environment and assumes a role; 2. Perceives the tasks and progress to be made; 3. Acquires necessary skills and vocabulary; 4. Explores and interacts with the environment; 5. Judges the results and realigns expectations.”

The main point of the presentation was discussed over five key points.

The first key point discussed “chalk and talk” and “pick and click.”

Chalk and talk refers to lecturing and pick and click refers to technology.

“There is a gap between these two,” Bartelt said.

“The two never meet. Even in hybrid classes, the two extremes do not actually blend.”

The second key point stated that the first point exists because lecturing is necessary and technology is not going away.

“We need both of these,” Bartelt said. “The missing link is the gap between the two.”

The third key point was that the University of La Verne does not have the policies or the infrastructure to support a real blend of the two.

The fourth key point basically stated that an actual true blend is not yet here or real, but it is very close to becoming a reality.

The final point Bartelt made was that the only way for him to actually blend lecture and technology in class is to use the tools he has readily available.

“Do you realistically see this blend happening?” Werner asked.

“Yes I do,” Bartelt said. “We are moving in that direction.”

Many of the faculty members in the audience asked plenty of questions and made very interesting comments.

Along with the faculty members one student, out of the three in attendance, really stood out and made valid points.

“I agree that lecture and technology should be blended,” Rebecca Valdez, senior liberal studies major, said.

“If too much technology is used, other forms of learning will be lost,” Valdez said.

“Students all learn in different ways and each should be accommodated for their learning style.”

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